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Controlled without testing? without enough tests, it seems unlikely that can happen. >> i think it would be very challenging to have enough tests to control the spread at a population level. we see in places like england and germany that have really abundant testing. they're unable to control the spread completely, even if the testing is providing some benefit, and even now the u.k., you know, there's reports that they're having shortages of tests even though they have an enormous and free supply of tests. omicron is blowing through, you know, any testing supply. >> dr. mazer, what do you thin...

Should say i'm speaking my own opinion, and you know, a lot of universities and schools have done a lot of surveillance testing of symptomatic, asymptomatic populations to try to keep people safe in some of these dorm settings and close knit quarters, and now the universities and a lot of workplaces have mandatory vaccination which is great, and they're getting nearly everyone vaccinated. i think given the scenario of relatively healthy young people, who are entirely vaccinated, it's not the most effective use of testing, you can help them out in the community, nursing homes struggle with test...

Opposed to level v or vi, these are our dorm settings. individuals here usually have a little more better behavior, in here for less violent crimes so they can somewhat be trusted. >> we're getting ready for dinner. and skipping the wonderful chow hall food today. we try to avoid that as much as possible. we try to cook for ourselves with stuff that we get from the commissary. we've made the burritos from hell. it's the best we can do with what we have here. there's like beef stew, chili beans, beans, rice. and a bunch of spices and stuff like that. and some cheese, of course. >> my dad always...

Opposed to level v or vi, these are our dorm settings. individuals here usually have a little more better behavior, in here for less violent crimes so they can somewhat be trusted. >> we're getting ready for dinner. and skipping the wonderful chow hall food today. we try to avoid that as much as possible. we try to cook for ourselves with stuff that we get from the commissary. we've made the burritos from hell. it's the best we can do with what we have here. there's like beef stew, chili beans, beans, rice. and a bunch of spices and stuff like that. and some cheese, of course. >> my dad always...

Opposed to level v or vi, these are our dorm settings. individuals here usually have a little more better behavior, in here for less violent crimes so they can somewhat be trusted. >> we're getting ready for dinner. and skipping the wonderful chow hall food today. we try to avoid that as much as possible. we try to cook for ourselves with stuff that we get from the commissary. we've made the burritos from hell. it's the best we can do with what we have here. there's like beef stew, chili beans, beans, rice. and a bunch of spices and stuff like that. and some cheese, of course. >> my dad always...