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Letting that boil off as steam, releasing the steam to get the pressure down enough so they can put in more water so that commits them to continuing released probably for weeks to come. >> we know that hundreds of workers were evacuated, tens of thousands of people within a 30-kilometer area of this facility were evacuated. there's not that many people actually left, i assume, because they fear radiation poisoning, but those who are left, how endangered are they? >> i don't know what the dose rates are in the plant. some of the numbers that they have reported would in fact be enough, if you we...

Again, they were already at levels relatively low compared to typical medical doses that people get. >> but, glenn, let me ask you this. i'm going to play devil's advocate because there are people who say it's in the best interest of the officials at the nuclear plant, government officials as well to downplay this. who's scrutinizing those numbers? how do people there know for sure, and how do we know for a fact that the levels are where they are and going on inside the nuclear facility is actually what's going on inthese press conferences? >> well, it's difficult for me to speculate just moni...

Are. and, again, those -- based on the reports that i've seen, those dose rates are at a low level. they are elevated. and so an event has occurred. i'm not trying to say that an event has not occurred. that's definitely true. if they have elevated radiation, they are recording that. that is a problem, and they're having to manage that. however, the dose rates recorded do not support the conclusion that a complete meltdown has occurred. that is definitely out of the question from the dose rates that have been recorded. >> all right. >> you would have substantially higher dose rates, you know, ...

Chernobyl even if it were a complete meltdown because a lot of the radioactivity has been captured in the water, in the basement of the reactor. but there's still a lot coming off -- the fact that the carrier task force off of japan was -- sensed a thousand times higher than normal dose rates is quite troubling at that distance. >> frank, i think a lot of people are looking at what happened in japan at this nuclear power plant and asking could this happen to us here in the united states. the u.s. has 23 plants that have a similar type of design or build to this japanese plant. does that worry ...