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Are infiltrating companies that -- it is so well integrated you really couldn't make this up, except in a spy novel. i'll also point to another date, and that is 2013, that's when trump went to russia, he met with oligarchs, the dossier talks about this, he went there, he had meetings with some of the same characters that appear later in that trump tower meeting, that was in connection with the miss universe pageant, and these people come back around again. it's the same cast of characters and you would have to be awfully naive to think that there wasn't a clear signal on the russians part, th...

Whether he was in the government or not, the product would have been verified. and that when jim comey first flew up to new york to meet with then president-elect trump, he mentioned it in that context. this thing is out there. it's out there, unsubstantiate, didn't want you to be blindsided by it. this is donald trump's kryptonite. the thing in this document are in some instances is a salacious but a lot that offers proof about financial tie s between donald trump and russia. is that not the case? t. is. raw intelligence. if the cia had this information they'd want to know the sources, whethe...

Reported that russia was believed to be -- or russian hackers were believed to be behind the hack of the democratic national committee in the summer of 2016, a dossier, one of the entries in the dossier talks about that hack being attributed to the kremlin. so that was before it was publicly known, and it wasn't until october the u.s. government said this was a kremlin operation to hack the dnc. so it's definitely a road map, and there may be things in it that are false. there may also be things in it that are true. >> we're always under a time crunch but let's just take a half a step back. re...

Whether the really troubling contents of that so-called dossier may be true. >> there has been an effort by some to discredit the firm fusion gps or discredit mr. steel and as you say, mr. steel has a very good reputation, is reportedly a former british intelligence officer. i can't confirm that. but is reported to be very well regarded and i think the key thing from an investigative point of view is not trying to impeach the people who produce the report or commission the report, but rather find out whether the facts are true in the report and when you look at just what has become public, som...