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>> but a guy like carville is saying -- >> she doesn't, and that's -- >> but see, that's what i think people suspect, it wasn't an innocent thing from the beginning, where i don't want two devices, here's what you don't know. >> forget forget about the ear part of what she said, if anyone e-mailed her from the office, she responded to them on their dot-gov e-mail address so that would be captured. >> that's such -- >> what are you going to say, steve? >> what i'm going to say is she is then relying -- what she's saying is look, i wanted to be in compliance with the rules of this the administra...

What do you make -- we've heard that a lot from the clinton defenders, certainly. >> i just feel, not to pile on my friend joe, but i do feel like -- i just want politicians to have to answer to foia requests. when we have this thing where everybody is using their private e-mail, i don't think -- i don't think -- it's not -- i don't feel comfortable trying to have any kind of moral superiority that i may want to vote for or support, i just don't like it. >> i've said and i've written -- >> stop it, joe! stop your yelling! >> i've said she would be better off, meaning secretary clinton and the ...

Just come out and says that. it was just a matter of convenience, and in mindsight -- >> it has to be some hindsight now. >> but a guy like carville is saying -- >> she doesn't, and that's -- >> but see, that's what i think people suspect, it wasn't an innocent thing from the beginning, where i don't want two devices, here's what you don't know. >> forget forget about the ear part of what she said if anyone e-mailed her from the office she responded to them on their dot-gov e-mail address so that would be captured. >> that's such -- >> what are you going to say, steve? >> what i'm going to say...

>> what she did was wrong? >> absolutely. you know you need personal and gleet governmental accounts and you can use the government for personal but you cannot do it the other way. she said 50% of her e-mails are personal and who in the world spends 50% of their time sending personal e-mails as secretary of the state. >> my fox account is way more active than my personal account. >> sure. she had a busy day job and claiming 50% were personal so she could destroy them. there are things she doesn't want the public to know. >> very quickly the president says he was unaware. how do you notice when...

>> it is always nice to have agreement. leslie and mark, take care. time for my take now we don't have enough time on this show to the go through all of the unanswered questions from mrs. clinton's press conference. the biggest one for me is this, are we supposed to believe that hillary clinton never discussed state biz with anyone at dot-gov e-mails. so so they were saved in the government's archives. but to me, this is the essence of why she may have set up the private server and only used private e-mail. did she have her closest advisors also using private e-mail accounts? in that way, th...