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E-mail, if she had, it would all by foia-ible. a lot of information have foia'd e-mails looking for hers. maybe they just want to know how she conducted business, but many have been told over the course of their public reports lawsuits, that sorry, there's no records from the secretary, without being told, sorry, the secretary never used a dot-gov e-mail. i want to go back to something that susan said true. how do we know? how do we know it was a secure server? it took a long time for the white house to realize that its server was being hacked by the russians, and we reported on that back in d...

All of the e-mails that she sent in to the department of state were sent to dot gov addresses. fully disclosable and compliant with the law. the only things she held back were the personal nature but end ended up disclosing 55,000 different e-mails. she's gone above and beyond the requirements of the law to show that nothing was done to break the law. >> what do you think about the fact that the rest of those e-mails that were in that combined e-mail address that were not selected to be preserved with the state department were, in fact deleted. a lot of people raising questions about that toda...

Individual whether they have one device two devices, three devices, how many addresses, they make the decision. even if you have a work-related device with a work-related dot-gov account, you choose what goes on that. that's the way our system works. so we trust and count on the judgment of thousands, maybe millions of people to make those decisions. and i feel that i did that and even more that i went above and beyond what i was requested to do. again, those will be out in the public domain and people will be able to judge for themselves. >> madam secretary, excuse me state department rules a...

If you don't trust hillary clinton, you're going to say they weren't about yoga and weddings and all that. maybe there was something we didn't know there. in terms of keeping this story alive for the long time, if she doesn't break any rules or laws and there was no breach of security, i think it becomes much harder to keep the story alive over the long run. >> looking at it this way, do you think there were any laws broken? i'll give you that opening. where could we go to find a law that was broken? >> i don't think there's a law. i think there's a rule. any government business or government ...

Telling voters to trust me is something voters won't do. some of journalists won't do either. keeping that server private, that's a sentence we'll hear a lot over not only the coming days but months. until we get all the answers and have access to all the information, not just what she decided we have access to. nobody wants to see her personal family e-mails or anything that's classified. we need confidence that's what we're getting is what is government business. >> wahat about that, karen? she isn't opening up the server. it's not like she has to turn it over to republicans but maybe to a t...