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Impossible. that's why i think it's important to remember or at least to go back into the archives and figure out why there is this weird anomaly that we don't have a head of the atf. it is because of really radical anti-government, far right fringe politics influencing the nra to push for that for members of congress. so now the question is, well, we've been talking for four years now about how the republican party relates to the right-wing fringe, that it has this sort of uneasy relationship with. how is that going to manifest on guns? i don't know what the relationship is between the steve ...

Small incremental things and here, which is where we want to end up. >> you start somewhere and you start i think by proving that policy can be changed. >> absolutely. a thousand percent. >> in washington. even though the gun lobby wants you to believe that that's impossible. that's why i think it's important to remember or at least to go back into the archives and figure out why there is this weird anomaly that we don't have a head of the atf. it is because of really radical anti-government, far right fringe politics influencing the nra to push for that for members of congress. so now the que...

Strange card from that very weird lapierre presser that seemed intensely focused on joining up the most rabid members of his base to this ad they've cut with sasha and malia. i don't think the war on the atf is a broadly resonant issue in american public life -- >> but they're trying to be broadly resonant. >> but they aren't trying to be broadly resonant. and the question, it gets back to the senate republican question, does the party, dot legislators go along with that? do they recognize -- when they were sitting around capitol hill, all of them, watching wayne lapierre up on their tv screen...

Broadly resonant. >> but they aren't trying to be broadly resonant. and the question, it gets back to the senate republican question, does the party, dot legislators go along with that? do they recognize -- when they were sitting around capitol hill, all of them, watching wayne lapierre up on their tv screens, did they recognize how terrible that looked toefrn? do they understand that? and doe think in the post-gerrymandered 13th congress with those districts that are going to be there for ten years, do they think it matters? do they think the voters in their district matter enough because the...

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