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Immigration and the clip that you showed earlier where the president was talking about pulling names out of a hat and making remarks about that, he was talking about the diversity visa lottery. that's legal immigration. that is not illegal immigration, but we are so conditioned to him speaking about immigrants and dehumanizing terms and we in the media are so exhausted by fact checking him constantly. it's almost those type of remarks just passed. i can tell you an in this case dote l -- hearing the remarks, el paso does not want him to coal to the border. he's the last person that the people ...

Enforcement and how they approach these di? >> from a law enforcement perspective, this isn't a difference. there is a difference in what you look at and the tool kit and resources but when you have people who have been killed in an incident like this from a law enforcement perspective, you're interested in making sure you know who did it, proving a case against them so you can bring them to justice but like bill says it's about prevention. so much work is building community relationships both with law enforcement and prosecutors and i learned as a u.s. attorney, if you had good community rela...

Type of horrendous act occurs, you don't process it while there. listening to the president's speech, there are two things that absolutely jump out at me. number one is something my colleague at nbc news pointed out. in his remarks today, this -- he did not even use the words hispanic or latino and this was a massacre target that targeted latinos in el paso. so that's number one. number two, his response was so lukewarm and i remember when kate steinle one american citizen was murdered in 2015, after that happened, the president elevated her case into a national issue and constantly brought it...