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Poll for the republican nomination. you're at 8% rubio 7, rand paul 6, why is he doing so well? >> he's striking a nerve with a lot of people who are fed up with government fed up with -- i think just a double mindedness on the part of so many people in politics. and he's speaking in such a blunt way. one of the things i hear out there, wolf there are some people who are not interested in someone going to washington and presiding over this country and governing, they're so angry that what they're thinking about is just burn it all down. i understand that range, as we get closer to electing a p...

Levins of the world is what they pitch is victimhood. their base is an older white male they've been preaching for something like 30 years. this idea you are a victim. >> we heard last year, didn't we, this notion of taking back your nation. the nation is changing. let's go back to the '50s. >> exactly. that the country is being stolen from you, the other people are doing it. it is in their interest to pitch this message. immigration reform, it plays right into it, the idea these people are taking over the country and coming in and stealing welfare benefits. i have to tell you the suspicion in...