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And take a look at this report. >> you know, joyce, as usual, dr. meachum raises some legitimate and pertinent point especially about bob mueller's use of language yesterday, sometimes convoluted, the double negative and stuff like that, but in terms of his use of language, one thing stood out to a lot of people. when he was talking about obtaining full and accurate information from every person in terms of conspiracy and collusion and obstruction, and then he said following that, when a subject of an investigation obstructs that investigation or lies to investigators, it strikes at the core o...

Which by the way, the advisory is not mandatory -- and he told william barr, the attorney general, not once, not twice, but three times, something completely different. >> sean: by the way, there were witnesses to this. >> he said the opinion had nothing whatsoever to do with my nondecision decision.o so who's telling the truth here? 's core argument, this man's core argument that you see on the screen is, we cannot approve the president did not commit obstruction of justice. think about what that means. that is a double negative. he is reversing the burden of proof and inverting the presumpti...

Bob mueller was doing what he was asked to do as elise says we can argue about that, but essentially his message was i wrote this report, i undertook this task, i wish you would read it. i do think the biggest headline was that wonderful double negative, you know, if we thought he had not committed a crime we would have said so, which is wonderfully -- you know, if you saw that sentence as an editor you would fix it. it's a little too convoluted, but that right there is the point. trump says a person is innocent, mueller says if we thought he had committed -- i can't even say it. if we thought...

Is made in the mueller report going forward? >> we still have volume ii which the special counsel said clearly in ten instances, the president did not not obstruct justice. he stated it as a double negative. the cheer imme indication is the president broke the law and the president would be facing criminal charges. >> let's talk about the work to be done as a nation. will anything get done? this after all was supposed to be a legit workday. it is not as if our country can't name infrastructure, construction projects that need doing, and urgently. will we see any of it? >> i'm old enough to rem...

Trump obstructed justice. and i think that mueller and his team have tried to be very careful to not get drawn into what is a very partisan warfare over what trump did and did not do in office and whether or not he abused that office. >> and back to this question of testimony. for whatever reason, if we don't hear from bob mueller, what does that do to the public case that is made in the mueller report going forward? >> we still have volume ii which the special counsel said clearly in ten instances, the president did not not obstruct justice. he stated it as a double negative. the cheer imme i...