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Douglas was mccain's chief economist. >> these numbers are pretty shocking wouldn't you say? >> yes. >> what is it? $410 million an hour. >> an hour, yes. >> everybody but colmes, maybe the wall street protestors, but everybody else who is not ideological is going to say you have to put a lid on it or we are going to be greased. no matter what spin or excuse you use you have to go back it was 161 billion. they were worried about 161 million in spending. that's how crazy it is. you put this budget reverting back to 2007.

Douglas was mccain's chief economist. >> these numbers are pretty shocking wouldn't you say? >> yes. >> what is it? $410 million an hour. >> an hour, yes. >> everybody but colmes, maybe the wall street protestors, but everybody else who is not ideological is going to say you have to put a lid on it or we are going to be greased. no matter what spin or excuse you use you have to go back it was 161 billion. they were worried about 161 million in spending. that's how crazy it is. you put this budget reverting back to 2007.

Douglas was mccain's chief economist. >> these numbers are pretty shocking wouldn't you say? >> yes. >> what is it? $410 million an hour. >> an hour, yes. >> everybody but colmes, maybe the wall street protestors, but everybody else who is not ideological is going to say you have to put a lid on it or we are going to be greased. no matter what spin or excuse you use you have to go back it was 161 billion. they were worried about 161 million in spending. that's how crazy it is. you put this budget reverting back to 2007.

You can do a number of things like an infrastructure bank. >> i am not understanding. you are much smarter than i am. you said spending worked unemployment went up. and the federal debt rose to record levels. >> unemployment stayed pretty steady. about 9.1 percent. roughly the same. statistically the same as it has been. federal stimulus a point nach. >> big numbers. >> the fact is without this, without having spent this money the money that brings money back into the economy we would be in better shape. >> how do you know that? >> that's what every economist said. >> there is not one economis...

The state solvent. you can do a number of things like an infrastructure bank. >> i am not understanding. you are much smarter than i am. you said spending worked unemployment went up. and the federal debt rose to record levels. >> unemployment stayed pretty steady. about 9.1 percent. roughly the same. statistically the same as it has been. federal stimulus a point nach. >> big numbers. >> the fact is without this, without having spent this money the money that brings money back into the economy we would be in better shape. >> how do you know that? >> that's what every economist said. >> there ...