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>> and that's playing out in so many different facets of our national discourse, including the reporting on how trump used the doj to seek out information on opponents. i wonder from your perspective, does this revelation offer democrats the urgency that seems to be lacking from some around protecting voting rights? >> it would be hard to think what could add more urgency at this point to the questions that are in front of the democratic party. it's not like they needed the latest reporting to know that they didn't want trump and trump-style republicans to be back in power. so are the revelati...

Is drowning out the 2020 race a little bit? >> a little bit, yeah. but it's also drowning out a lot of other things. like the environment and what's happening at the epa and how deregulations is happening all the time and i'm really frustrated but think it has to be done. >> reporter: kendis, what she said to me there is something i've heard repeatedly. voters who say it until something they're watching with glee, not exciting about impeaching a president. it's important to show no one is above the law even the president and are supportive of democratic efforts in washington at least now. even...

And that is something that i think you'll see really clearly as sanders tries to differentiate himselves from the field starting now and go into the debates at the end of the month. >> isaac, as you know, recent polls have showed sanders slipping slightly, a number of these polls, is there a risk of bernie fatigue, isaac? >> well, we'll find out. obviously, this was a very different race than it was in 2016. that was essentially a binary race. this is a race between 23 people and lots och differef differentt there. but also a race that has been in many ways redefined by bernie sande sanders. m...

On what exactly that means. but a new report in "the atlantic" headlined, as bernie sanders leans into socialism, his rivals laugh. details on how fellow democratic competitors question whether the idea of democratic socialism is actually attainable in the united states. nbc road warrior shaquille brewster is following the sanders campaign. he joins me live from washington. also joining me, edward isaac dovere, author of the aforementioned report. shaq, what can we expect to hear from the senator today? >> reporter: you can expect to hear a defense of democratic socialism and an attempt to ref...

We will go to four-year college but we will also subsidize vocational school. all of those as well. when you have the less will a person going to harvard we will pay for that also. that is still appealing to an awful lot of people. the first question that comes to mind and that goes back to my first comment how are you going to pay for this? we have a government that has a better part of a trillion dollar deficit in a time of 4% on -- unemployment. we've never have anything like this before.e. our national debt is overe. a hundred% we are getting up there. we are kind of moving in that directi...