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talked about what has been thus far but also talked what is to come. >> what is to come. here's the quote, clark decided - it's like a movie. >> you know, like mussolini or something. >> yeah. >> sort of like al haig. no disrespect. you got to know whether you're a utility, infielder or cleanup -- >> like the justice department. >> he decided they're going to take over the justice department. they're going to wipe out everything. >> and trump. >> they call in rosen -- is it donahue -- >> yeah. >> some of these characters, like him and the other guy who said i don't want to hear two w...

Held up that end of the conversation with the american people to show exactly and expose exactly who these people are. and how they, more so than trump in many cases, fomented insurrection, pushed that narrative along and here we are. >> and eddie guad, this is standing along with adam kinzinger. there is has been over time, ted cruz, kevin mccarthy saying this is the past. look at biden's economy. whatever. i want to know what they're saying?

It's fewer propaganda. there are massive networks feeding right into it and making money and feeding people lies. >> right. it's out of dictator 101 to break down eddie is exactly right, the forth of state. i go international and think of two things. one is i think about our correspondents people reich richard engel who are over there wearing crumby, not effective protective gear, walking around with an iphone sending us the truth. >> right. >> showing us what's going on. commending the press, talking about the press. eddie's point, the criticality of itis crucial. secondly, think how this is ...

Madisonian democracy and checks and balances. people don't understand, like donald trump, he's unlike anybody else who's ever held that office. he doesn't respect constitutional boundaries, you used to be -- no, i'm actually the conservative. they were the radicals. they don't understand, this is about ideology -- this is about -- >> -- the truth. >> -- the truth and constitutional guard rails that donald trump didn't feel compelled to work with. >> again, as eddie says, it's an uncomfortable position to be with. actually, mike pence may have saved the country that day. he didis job. and that'...

Area, but there's a whole disinformation online that we have people working on covering the news about what is happening with democracy, and there are viewers not getting it. >> yeah. there's the thing, when we talk to our friends and loved one that we respect. you believe the conspiracy theorys and you can't talk sense into it. eddie, there's a reason, and the reason is people plug in to their news source, and if it's disconnected from reality. and if they're literally afraid now to show the truth of what trump's advisers were telling donald trump -- trumpists, they defended him during the im...