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And he would wink at michael flynn. people think that outside of -- outside of qanon think, we can cause them to defect. here's jeffrey epstein. then they say, trump was going under cover to take down epstein. not rationalizations to continue to have this really undying loyalty to trump. aparchlly it never ceased. >> i feel as somebody sort of outside of this looking in on it. the one thing that looked to many is a cultification. that will be tested over time. will sommer, reporter from "the daily beast." thanks very much for helping us understand this weird moment. i really appreciate you bei...

07-year-old grandmother behind bars in a crowded room with not enough space. here's what i did on the ground with my own agents in my district that they have been signalling up the ladder that they have been in a crisis for months. and that those conversations have not been heard higher up. it's really hard for me as a legislator to not -- to not see the intentionality in this creation of a crisis. we heard the president say, i want to make it bad for immigrants. and i feel that's really what he is doing in this situation and deflecting by calling it a hoax. >> representative gonzalez, christi...