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You think tessier is guilty or not guilty, first mike? >> no doubt, he is guilty of this crime. >> casey? >> i do believe he's guilty. i think the timeline does work because i don't think children would be playing december 3rd after 7:00 in the evening. it's pitch dark out, so i think the new timeline starting her disappearance at 6:00 makes complete sense, yes. >> holly hughes, i know you have an opinion about this. do you think he's guilty? >> i do think he's guilty, don. and one of the strongest reasons i think he's guilty is a pattern of behavior. anybody who's worked in this system for an...

Dismissed that also. >> but, you know, john or jack as you call him, claims that he only met maria once but vividly remembered her and then we spoke with him in illinois. here's what he had to say about her -- >> my memory of her is so vivid. i see her standing there with her big, big eyes and cute little dress on her and she had her little patent shoes. she was just adorable. but with just big, big brown eyes. the word isn't lovely didn't describe. she was precious. and even as i remember her picture now, the audience could have seen her, they'd all just say one word, ahh. of course, all kids...

Murder, but after your interrogation you had no doubt that john was the guy that eluded police for decades. why was that? >> during the investigation, or during my interview of jack, which lasted a couple hours, he was making some very telling signs during the interview. at one point when i showed him the montage that was shown to the little girl who was with maria, he was looking at each picture saying he didn't know one person in there and he -- one over his picture which was clearly him and it was almost comical how he threw it to the side and said i don't know who that person is. also he w...

>> we get a knock on our door. it was brion hanley. he had some photos he wanted me to view. he laid one down. and i knew immediately that was johnny. you just don't forget a face. you just do not forget a face of somebody that has snatched somebody from the street corner. you don't forget what they look like. and i never have. >> so, brion, i want you to get in to exactly what was the tip and how it came about and what ran through your mind when she correctly identified john. >> well, the tip came about that kathy was with maria, and when we went and spoke to maria, the leads led us to kathy,...

Ruled john out as a suspect because he had an alibi, but the judge didn't allow the alibi or the original fbi files to be presented in court. holly, to you first, what do we know about his alibi, and why wouldn't it be allowed in court? >> well, the short answer is, it would have been straight-up hearsay because the alibi he gave to his parents was that, you know, they alibied him and said he was somewhere else, he was 40 miles away. but they are deceased, so there's nobody to validate that hearsay statement. and additionally, don, the mother on her deathbed told one of john's sisters, johnny ...