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In this bizarre pose but in this clip, if you watch, not only at one point did he show -- because he's asymmetrical. he showed contempt but he also showed real anger. his brows came down low and thed mentalis muscle right there dimples in. >> laura: the what muscle? >> the mentalis. htright here. right here. it's like this area right here that turns into an orange skin peel, that's what it looks like. it gets all dimply. >> laura: every time you come on i learn something new. i thought i saw the hearing but then i realized i didn't really see the hearing. tonya, great to see you, as talways, t...

In this bizarre pose but in this clip, if you watch, not only at one point did he show -- because he's asymmetrical. he showed contempt but he also showed real anger. his brows came down low and the mentality muscle right there dimples in. >> laura: the what muscle? >> them and tell us. right here. right here. it's like this area right here that turns into an orange skin gray that's what it looks like her to get them believe. it >> laura: every time you come on i learn something new. i think i saw the hearing but then i realized i didn't really see the hearing. tonya, great to see you as alway...

Thing that i think's really important to underscore in this testimony is just the twha foreig way that foreign policy is being crafted. willie said that george kent oversaw ukraine policy. of course that's technically true, but this reality it's not true at all. i mean, you see a picture of a man trying to figure out what's going on in his portfolio. the same picture that yovanovitch painted, the same picture taylor painted. these are the career politically appointed officials supposedly running this policy and they're trying to figure out what's actually going on because the person doing a lo...

Matter what, he could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and that'd likely stay with him, and mabe many people in the senate said there's nothing he could do to lose their support. but if that 49% goes up to 58, 59%, that's the only way that things could move. but, again, we probably -- we can't really project out what's going to happen in these public hearings. we can't project out even what happens if john bolton, a man beloved by conservatives for decades comes out and lays donald trump and his foreign policy down low. >> i think that's true, except for the fact that when we go into the polls s...

And brittany kept their relationship on the down low. >> we never went out in public, you know, out to eat or anything like that maybe but one time. >> but if colleagues could have heard their recorded interoffice phone calls, they would have discovered some suggestive flirty banter. >> i could use your big, strong, manly muscles. >> you know, we all good. >> reporter: more than a year after their affair started, norman and brittany were still keeping things quiet. then in february 2011, their secret affair became not so secret. brittany's husband found out and not long after she moved out and...