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I've been in washington for 30 years. i remember when the government shut down under reagan, under clinton, under bush, and i've got to say, i think democrats are making a big political mistake here if they basically -- look, the party that gets blamed for a shutdown is the party that wants to shut the government down. that's why newt gingrich got blamed, it seemed like he wanted to shut down the government. in this instance, democrats are saying, we don't care if the government gets shut down because we want our way on daca. >> the folks in washington, they seem to be a part of this -- this w...

The deportation of the d.r.e.a.m.ers which is what will happen if they agree to a long-term funding deal without protections for the d.r.e.a.m.ers under the daca program. >> look, i think when you have the parties that can't fully agree on something, which they can't do on daca right now, i've lived through a lot of government shutdowns. i've been watching for 30 years. i remember when the government shut down under reagan, under clinton, under bush, and i've got to say, i think governments are making a big political mistake here if they basically -- look, the party that gets blamed for a shut...