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Just kind of downplays everything. but he could tell we were very excited. >> joey, does he understand what's going on? how much were you able to fill him in and tell him what's happening with the war and how much pressure russia is under? >> yes, surprisingly they are not censoring what he says to us. he's telling us what they're hearing there in the barracks from russian tv. or there is a tv somewhere where they're getting information. and, you know, they're getting ai completely different story. when he called monday, the news they're getting is that ukraine was all but conquered, the russi...

In a way this coalition that -- if not ignored, it didn't pay enough attention to white working class folks. as you look at it from the outside, do you see, i mean, are you hearing democratic voices that hear that message, in effect? >> no. i think that democrats are in shock because unlike republicans who had years of soul searching and kind of assuming they were going to lose this election, democrats were shocked. you go through the 12 stages of denial and all that stuff. the other thing is president obama by his very nature, the no-drama obama thing, means he doesn't really ever overreact. ...

And kind of assuming they were going to lose this election, democrats were shocked. you go through the 12 stage of denial and all that stuff. the other thing is president obama by his very nature, the no-drama obama thing, means he doesn't really ever overreact. he sort of downplays everything. i think he's downplaying this. democrats have a serious problem and it's hard, you know, to have a coalition. how do you satisfy black lives matter and millennials and coal miners in west virginia? you can't be all things to all people. i think the democrats have to do that soul searching that they were...