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Capabilities, you're talking about allies in the region, south korea, for example, and certainly others in the pacific rim. so there's a lot more at stake here that could impact that hot rhetoric. but for the base, it's like -- it's what they like to hear. the question is, are they prepared to deal with the consequences if action is taken. >> ron, the president's remarks reportedly took a number of folks by surprise. not just his advisers, but members of his own party. defense secretary mattis, he issued a statement on noeshrth korea, and it reads in part -- this is from the defense secretary,...

>> darryl, senator graham's assertion there, saying basically, look, you've got to talk to kim jong-un in a way that he understands. do you agree with that? >> we have to speak with kim jong-un. that's one thing we have not yet been doing. the trump administration's name for their policy with respect to north korea is maximum pressure and engagement. but there hasn't been any engagement with north korea to this point. so we have to be very careful with the rhetoric. the president's remarks. let's call it what it is. these are reckless and bombastic threats against a regime that is already quit...