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I'm worried that if he spends all month calculating he is weighing the odds. if he should be president, he should run. >> look, he's got a deliberatetive process. i said before it's our job at draft bide tone gin to give him space he needs. he had a firsthand, you know, a front row seat for the demands that the presidency puts on your family. he's run two national campaigns before. he's been on the ticket for two national campaigns. so he understands the process. draft biden is really here to do the organizing that he needs -- that we can do in advance of his announcement. the important thing ...

Are the biggest obstacles he's trying to get over to make this decision? >> i am not sure if there is any significant obstacles. what draft bide sn is doing is organizing. we're beginning to organize in key early states and key early states and we're just reminding people who joe biden is. so that's our focus. i'm sure that there's folks who would pontificate about challenges his campaign would face. those are questions for the future. draft biden has a mission right now. we're working to execute. that. >> bill kristol. >> you know i'm a draft biden enthusiast myself. i'm sure you're happy to ...