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Information. obviously, people want to stop police abuse and we need to connect up the facts with the headlines and sometimes that hasn't happened and see what actually is occurring and understandable people want to get to the bottom of this but the facts have to matter in the cases, also. >> especially with one arm up. we don't know the other one. appears surrendering. police say he was resisting in this time so, again, a lot to be filled in when we hear from the sheriff's department and giving a news conference any moment now the top of the 2:00 hour here. eugene mcdonald, thank you very muc...

There. secretary clinton and the other democratic candidates really going to have to wait until october until they know? >> well, rachel, i mean i've been in politics to know that really nobody wants somebody else to get in the race, so i'm sure that the other campaigns don't like this sort of being out there. but the vice president frankly has earned the right to take his time on this decision and clearly it's a big one he has to make. our job is to get ready in case he does run. that's why we're out recruiting volunteers, talking to donors, trying to ensure that there's an infrastructure in ...

Democratic candidates really going to have to wait until october until they know? >> well, rachel, i mean i've been in politics to know that really nobody wants somebody else to get in the race, so i'm sure that the other campaigns don't like this sort of being out there. but the vice president frankly has earned the right to take his time on this decision and clearly it's a big one he has to make. our job is to get ready in case he does run. that's why we're out recruiting volunteers, talking to donors, trying to ensure that there's an infrastructure in place should the vice president decide ...

Else to get in the race, so i'm sure that the other campaigns don't like this sort of being out there. but the vice president frankly has earned the right to take his time on this decision and clearly it's a big one he has to make. our job is to get ready in case he does run. that's why we're out recruiting volunteers, talking to donors, trying to ensure that there's an infrastructure in place should the vice president decide to run so when he hits the ground running, there's a campaign kind of ready for him. >> in that regard, in terms of infrastructure, staff and volunteers and all the other...

General election. joining us, cnn political commentator s.e cup, alex castellanos, founder of newrepublican.org and donna brazile, democratic strategist. donna, it looks like increasingly evidence pointing that the vice president is very serious about this decision and also significantly josh earnest just said the president believes to this very day the best decision he made was to pick joe biden -- not necessarily hillary clinton -- as his running mate. >> well, as you know, the water is still warm and there's no question that vice president biden is making a serious attempt to talk to demo...