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Is why is mueller planning to do that. should this be seen as routine for this type of case to the extent there is this type of case? or is mueller choosing this upcoming court filing essentially as a vehicle to release to the public information about the russia scandal and manafort that might otherwise not see the light of day. if, for example, it's otherwise going to be blocked by trump's new acting attorney general, matt whitaker. could that be a factor here? is mueller planning on using these court filings to give the public information about what evidence they have collected and what happ...

Interference in this investigation. >> you're also a former prosecutor yourself, sir. nbc news tonight obtained draft charges and a draft plea agreement that were apparently sent by the special counsel's office to jerome corsi. mr. corsi has chosen to share those documents with reporters, he has also said that he has rejected this proposed plea agreement and i don't necessarily believe everything that mr. corsi says, but it is unusual to see these documents. we can't directly verify them, but they appear to be work of the special counsel's office. just wanted to get your reaction to that. feel...

Presidency or when the president leaves office. it obviously would be something the house would have to consider in terms of whether it rose to the level of a high crime or misdemeanor. and it also may mean that this is merely information that is going to be provided to voters so that in 2020 they can decide whether they want a president who is willing to obstruct justice. but there are a lot of potential consequence that can flow from it and i think our ultimate obligation is to expose any interference in this investigation. >> you're also a former prosecutor yourself, sir. nbc news tonight o...

Thanks for doing it. can't indicate wait. >> i can't wait either. >> i turn to another scandal mentioned by michael. a federal judge today unsealing a secret grand jury that had draft charges against a sitting president, richard nixon, but they were sent to congress. this is 1974. it created what is a road map detailing nixon's efforts in four counts to cover up the water gate break in and other political espionage and shows the grand jury was ready to indict nixon on those four counts, that includes bribery and obstruction of justice which mueller is investigating. ben wittis is a contributor...