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President obama all the time. i'll compare him to president bush, my former boss who i think was a good president -- >> don't compare him to president obama -- >> don't interrupt him, he didn't interrupt you. go ahead, richard. >> i am telling you president trump is a liar. compare him to president bush, yes, there were things that bush and obama, clinton said that turned out not to be true, but donald trump has lied every day repeatedly, he's lied for his entire life since he dodged the draft in vietnam. robert mueller went to vietnam. he had a knee injury and he went and got it fixed. and we...

I'm compare him to president bush who i think was a very good president -- >> sure, don't compare to president obama -- >> he didn't interrupt you. he didn't interrupt you. finish, please. >> i am telling you that donald trump is a liar. and yes, there's things that president obama, clinton said that turned out not to by true but donald trump has lied every day repeatedly. he's lied for his entire life since he dodged the draft in vietnam when robert mueller went off to fight for his country. he had a a foot injury from playing hawk aat st. paul's and he got it fixed. and we have a president w...

Effects that you can't even -- you shoot into a crowd of people, things happen. >> our active duty troops aren't going to do that. commanders aren't going to order them to do that. the president, who in my mind is a draft dodger, the president of the united states is a draft dodger, playing with our troops. this idea of sending 15,000 troops to the southern border right now, it's for an election ploy. >> you have no doubt about that? >> no! >> because they're not manning the border wall with guns. they will be in support positions just as national guard troops are in support positions. >> righ...

>> it also, you know, has ripple effects that you can't even -- you shoot into a crowd of people, things happen. >> our active duty troops aren't going to do that. >> right. >> commanders aren't going to order them to do that. the president, who in my mind is a draft dodger, the president of the united states is a draft dodger, playing with our troops. this idea of sending 15,000 troops to the southern border right now, it's an election ploy. >> you have no doubt about that? >> no. >> because they're not manning the border wall with guns. i mean, they will be in support positions, just as nati...

Have a little bit more to go. one last thing, we see mccain, we do see this emblem of tran sen dents and candor in public life. i was just thinking over the weekend, there's a moment at a very dark hour in george h.w. bush's presidential diary. he just lost the presidency to bill clinton. he's gone up to capitol hill for a dinner. he's in a state, as you can imagine, having lost the presidency to this draft dodger as he called him in the diary. and he's going through the receiving line at a senate dinner, and john mccain appears. and bush starts to cry. shakes his hand, apologized to mccain. m...