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>> was george w. bush at all defensive about the criticism from his father? >> he was surprised by it. i think is safe to say. he said dad never said any of this to me either during the presidency or after. he said, he would never have said, hey, you've got to reign in cheney. he's ruining your administration. and any way, i disagree with him, these were my policies. he knew that his father's style was such that he would never say these things directly to him. which is in and of itself fascinate. >> reporter: and other insights include blunt assessment of bill clinton as a draft dodger and lia...

That's number one. number two in terms of service and his deferment status and all this i have to say you know i supported back in the day president george h.w. bush and senator dole for president. certified heroes for world war ii and we elected bill clinton twice who was a draft dodger plainly put. i think america has long ago reached the decision on this that military service clearly when you choose president clinton over bush or senator dole is not what the american people make a decision on. be that as it may, the decision has long since come and gone. president obama has no -- president ...

Had weapons of mass destruction. this man who as you carefully pointed out orchestrated the down fall of valerie flame and had his chief of staff indicted for obstruction of justice because of it, this man who got five deferments himself and is a draft dodger is still listened to even on fox news. i find it amazing that he gets air time. >> your reaction to cheney saying that scooter libby shouldn't have been left on the battlefield? obviously we are talking about the legal process in place that the vice president wanted to see scooter libby pardoned by the president. >> i think that was one o...

>> mark, go ahead. i want to know what the money piece. can you run in the iowa caucuses with a bankroll? will a bankroll help a guy who is relatively centrist against the yahoos running against him? >> i have great respect for susan, but i want to disagree on two things. first of all, what did people know about bill clinton during the perils of his candidacy in 1991? that he was a draft dodger and he had these phone calls with gennifer flowers. what did people know about george bush early on? he was the son of someone at that time who was not a particularly popular ex-president. and secondly,...

News conference today. i think he is trying to rebuild -- >> mark, go ahead. i want to know what the money piece. can you run in the iowa caucuses with a bankroll? will a bankroll help a guy who is relatively centrist against the yahoos running against him? >> i have great respect for susan, but i want to disagree on two things. first of all, what did people know about bill clinton during the perils of his candidacy in 1991? that he was a draft dodger and he had these phone calls with gennifer flowers. what did people know about george bush early on? he was the son of someone at that time who ...