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Draft warren campaign. on the other hand i do think senator clinton to be fair you know, we hear a lot about dynastic politics. the clintons are not a dynasty. it is a political marriage and i think it's -- >> it's an important distinction. >> i have a lot of issues with her issues, senator clinton's. substantively but two-time senator, secretary of state and one could argue the baggage of her marriage has not helped her. >> yes. >> so i do think we need to think hard about the differences. >> when you talk about the bush family, right and the clinton family, the bushes and clinton, there is a...

Have a draft warren campaign. on the other hand, i do think senator clinton, to be fair, you know, we hear a lot about dynastic politics. the bushes are a dynasty. the polls, rand are a dynasty. the clintons are not a dynasty. it is a political marriage and i think it's -- >> it's an important distinction. >> i have a lot of issues with her issues, senator clinton's. >> substantively. >> substantively but she is a woman that's been two-time senator, secretary of state and occasionally one could argue the baggage of her marriage has not helped her. >> yes. >> so i do think we need to think hard...

Democracy. at the nation we believe a contest the primary certainly on the democratic side is good for the country, the candidate, for the democratic party. >> for everyone. >> for people for activist everyone. debates, i mean this country has enormous challenges right? you want an election commensurate with the scale of the problems the challenges this country faces and if it's just this kind of even die has tick process, you're not going to get those debates. you need people who are going to come in and challenge the limits of the debate. there are people out there you know that chris, i mea...