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Stop. tomorrow the judiciary committee set to hold its first hearing. "the washington post" is reporting that members of the house judiciary committee have been privately discussing the possibility of drafting articles that include obstruction or other high crimes they believe are clearly outlined in special counsel robert mueller's reports or allegations trump used his office to benefit his bottom line. congressman, is that a good idea or is that an idea that can backfire, creating resistance from more moderate democrats. do you guys want to expand the scope of this thing? >> craig, i don't k...

Be, limited only to ukraine issue or broader to also include parts of the mueller report. where do you stand? >> well, i think we will get into that. we haven't started drafting articles and i don't think we will until after the hearing. >> what should they be? should they be broader. >> i think the evidence presented to us by the intelligence committee really focuses on the ukraine matter. so as well as the obstruction. so i'm sure that will be -- if we do articles and that is not a foregone conclusion, that is the central thrust i would assume. >> you don't think it is a foregone conclusion....

Include parts of the mueller report. where do you stand? >> well, i think we will get into that. we haven't started drafting articles and i don't think we will until after the hearing. >> what should they be? should they be broader? >> i think the evidence presented to us by the intelligence committee really focuses on the ukraine matter. as well as the obstruction. so i'm sure that will be -- if we do articles and that is not a foregone conclusion, that is the central thrust, i would assume. >> you don't think it is a foregone conclusion. you said the evidence was there from the summary trans...

Narrative about ukraine is something created by the russian -- the russian security services. and she said that if you believe that, you're essentially doing the bidding of russian security services. very strong and, in my view, very accurate statement. and i think that was probably the most important thing anyone could have said over the last couple of weeks. you know, joseph stalin, who had a line for everything, used to refer to useful idiots that as people who would essentially parrot a line even if they didn't understand where it came from. >> barbara mcquade, there is some sausage to be ...

Forward now? >> the risk is that we have abandoned our responsibility. the risk is ours. >> you have not supported an impeachment inquiry before, right? did yesterday change you in any way? >> no, i think it was an important step forward, but it didn't change me. my basic point is that we have multiple committees doing various aspects of oversight and investigation and i think that we need to get further down the line. and i also think that all of our leaders need to be on the same page. >> reporter: so all the leaders are not on the same page. jerry nadler who has privately advocated for an i...