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Be, limited only to ukraine issue or broader to also include parts of the mueller report. where do you stand? >> well, i think we will get into that. we haven't started drafting articles and i don't think we will until after the hearing. >> what should they be? should they be broader. >> i think the evidence presented to us by the intelligence committee really focuses on the ukraine matter. so as well as the obstruction. so i'm sure that will be -- if we do articles and that is not a foregone conclusion, that is the central thrust i would assume. >> you don't think it is a foregone conclusion....

Include parts of the mueller report. where do you stand? >> well, i think we will get into that. we haven't started drafting articles and i don't think we will until after the hearing. >> what should they be? should they be broader? >> i think the evidence presented to us by the intelligence committee really focuses on the ukraine matter. as well as the obstruction. so i'm sure that will be -- if we do articles and that is not a foregone conclusion, that is the central thrust, i would assume. >> you don't think it is a foregone conclusion. you said the evidence was there from the summary trans...

Constitution treason and bribery as the main things. other high crimes you could debate. but those were defined because treason and bribery is how you sell off the government and lose control of it to the highest bidder, be it a foreign adversary or really wealthy people who have other interests in mind. that was really damning in that sense. >> jason, it's also -- i know schiff spent some time today taking people through, taking sondland and then coming out and explaining to the public how all of the requirements for the bribery statute have been met. but make it easier for people. it's clear...