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Morning Joe-20191205-11:42:00

joe, what else is out there? where else is an irregular policy channel under way? where else has the president directed a foreign policy that's against u.s. security interests? i want to turn back to julia and ask you if your reporting has uncovered other placeors areas of concern around the world where either foreign policy is being corrupted, shaped, or undermined somehow by this dynamic that you report about. >> oh, sure. this is happening with some of our most important allies in germany, for example, when you have an ambassador who is just purposely throwing political bombs and angering our allies for no good reason just because -- you know, to own the libs back home. >> can you talk about that specifically? grenell went over and made such an embarrassment. i mean, it's just -- like i knew him when he was like a staffer on the hill. and he went over, stuck his nose in the middle of german politics, pushed like a -- wanted to push right-wing agenda

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Deadline White House-20191129-21:28:00

chain of command, what rudy was promising and to whom, right? >> i think there's a big question facing the president's entire inner cadre of advisers which is how did you acquiesce to the president, rudy giuliani, carrying out not just in a regular policy channel, but fundamentally an illegal one, maybe an unconstitutional one. >> we love the book. congratulations on the book. it's called "impeach." most people have bought it already. that's why it's number one. but if you're one of the seven people who hasn't, it's not too late. neal, thanks for spending some time with us. thank you, jeremy. when public testimony into the impeachment of donald trump kicked off, there was one voice we wanted to hear from, one of the most unlikely critics of the president, george conway, on his horror and his shock that donald trump's gop. that's next. s gop. that's next. donald trump's gop. that's next. donald trump's gop. that's next. donald trump's gop. that's next. donald trump's gop. that's next. at donald trump's gop. that's next. d trump's gop. that's next. .

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MSNBC Live-20191128-17:06:00

say they will keep the option open and if we want to send someone, they will submit a name. and it will not be rudy giuliani. >> i want to bring in ambassador chris hill who is at the university of denver, former ambassador to iraq. always good to see you, ambassador. we've got rudy giuliani, private citizen, running this kind of policy channel along with what we've been calling the three amigos, or they call themselves the three amigos. "the new york times" has seen documents showing that while giuliani was pushing trump's agenda with ukraine officials who, got to say this, needed u.s. support, desperately wanted u.s. support, giuliani was also exploring financial agreements with members of that very same government. what do you make of that? >> well, i think, you know, this is sort of ukraine's fate with the trump administration. first of all, the trump administration has wanted to follow this russian line that somehow it had nothing to do

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Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer-20191122-23:13:00

getting it. >> thanks for having me on. you're right, his subordinates at the hearing did testify he had significant concerns about what was happening on this irregular policy channel of rudy guilliani to investigate his rivals. at this point, we need to quickly conclude this particular inquiry if for no other reason if not to stop the wrongdoing happening right now in our foreign policy at the white house. as you may have seen on my questioning of some of the witnesses, they can't rule out the same thing that's happening in ukraine is happening in other countries, whether saudi arabia or russia or other countries. i think we have to move forward. if we were to go through some long court fight to get others,

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Deadline White House-20191122-21:16:00

sondland's sort of early morning release of his statement where he said everybody was in on it. i wasn't rogue, i wasn't part of an irregular policy channel. this was the channel. it was run by donald trump, vice president pence and mike pompeo. this was the channel. and then i thought the plate shifted again when fiona hill came in yesterday and said you are doing russia's work for them. do we really think there is no scenario where if john bolton were to sort of find religion and walk in and testify in a senate trial that republicans who have trusted john bolton for decades wouldn't say h-mmm? >> i think the one variable here is public opinion. we have seen that shifted since, for example, the mueller investigation, it seemed to go on and on, hard to wrap your head around. the last two weeks has painted a fairly clear picture. we are going into a break where we are going to have people and they are not supposed to talk about politics at the thanksgiving table, but i have a feeling that that will be happening.

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Fox News Reporting-20191121-20:37:00

i have self-instructed a couple of times. s that watt first time i have been instructed to go. >> why did he send you to report this to the lawyer? >> well, he clearly wanted to have himself on the record as not being part of what was basically an agreement to have a meeting in return for investigations. and he wanted to make sure that i and colonel vindman wasn't a part of this as well. remember there was a call related to this about not getting involved in domestic politics. >> yes, i understand. you, of course, did you concur with this concern that mr. bolton had? >> i did. because july 10th is really the first time that it crystallized for me that there was basically a different channel going on here. policy channel and a domestic policy channel. and we are not in that channel. >> you described it as a politicaller rand and you were doing national security policy is how you distinguished those two channels; is that fair? >> right.

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MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin-20191120-16:03:00

stunning testimony. >> he has been compared to john dean to as you said, taking a blow torch to every defense donald trump has offered. we don't say this very often anymore because it's rarely true. but i think today changed everything. i think gordon sondland's testimony today changed everything. and there was a little bit of foreshadowing. he has an attorney who a lot of people believe was the difference between karl rove coming out of the valerie plame special counsel, safe, legally speaking. his client submitted three new pages of testimony before his than script was released, amending the decision to be more in line of testimony of the others but the bombshell there was no irregular policy channel. there was the channel. it was run by donald j. trump, mike pence, mike pompeo the secretary of state. that channel directed an extortion of the government, the country of ukraine in exchange for dirt on joe biden.

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Deadline White House-20191120-21:01:00

statement that they were trying to get the ukrainians to put out. he knew about another effort they were trying to do with the ukrainian president. but sort of as much as possible today you saw mike pence putting out a statement that pushed back on what sondland said about him. and that was sort of how the administration was trying to undermine this testimony, which, as you were pointing out earlier, does rope in a lot of people in ways that we didn't have before. >> i wonder your take on sort of the sweep of what the regular channel included, the regular channel was the trump-directed rudy contaminated, if you will, pompeo green-lighting and vice president pence at least aware of a pressure campaign in ukraine. >> yeah. sondland making the argument today that why would he be the irregular channel when he was talking to the white house chief of staff, the secretary of state, the top folks at the

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Deadline White House-20191120-21:09:00

that are not in that channel are aggrieved for some reason for not being included, i don't know how they can consider us to be the irregular channel and they to be the regular channel when it's the leadership that makes the decisions. >> so, right. you know, when you're trying to construct a case around a crime boss, the picture of the boss goes right at the top of a pyramid. and then all of the crime boss's deputies kind of form the pyramid underneath. and that's the picture that mr. sondland painted today when he said regular channel. and -- because this is i think important. the reason why you have lieutenant colonel vindman and others raising the red flag and complaining is exactly what ambassador mcfaul is saying is because there is no other explanation, no other explanation for why this meeting is not happening since it's in u.s. national missy interests

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Deadline White House-20191120-21:08:00

ukraine known for corruption that he chose just this one. and they never once bothered to think, huh, i wonder why he's interested in this company. that just doesn't pass the laugh test for me. i don't think it'll pass the laugh test with many other people as well. >> there was something powerful about his plain spokenness. i talk about how he really did -- let's listen to this. sondland himself said i don't know how anyone could characterize my work as being part of anything other than the regular policy channel. let's listen. >> did anyone else express any concerns to you about this so-called irregular channel? >> i am not sure how someone could characterize something as an irregular channel when you're talking to the president of the united states, the secretary of state, the national security adviser, the chief of staff of the white house, the secretary of energy. i don't know how that's irregular if a bunch of folks

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