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Yes. Now, ambassador taylor also testified that and mr. Morrison both of them testified that you told them that President Trump said there was no quid pro quo which you also included in the text message that you referred. But then you went on and they had slight variations as to what you told them, but then you said that to ambassador taylor that president zelenskiy himself not the Prosecutor General needed to clear things up in public or there would be a stalemate. And mr. Morrison recounted something similar. You dont have any reason to doubt that both of their very similar recollections of ...

For our review in a day or two. and the question i have here is that i mean that statement never was issued and, in fact, ambassador volker has testified that he didn't think it was a good idea and ultimately the ukrainians didn't think it was a good idea, so the statement never reached a finalized state. >> that's correct. >> but even if it had, it doesn't talk about bidens, burisma, or anything insidious, correct? >> well, the statement as i recall would have mentioned the 2016 election/dnc server and burisma. >> okay. >> it would not have mentioned the bidens. >> have you heard ambassador v...

Investigate that? did ambassador volker ever relate that to you? >> no. we just talked in generic terms about quote investigating burisma. >> but it had nothing to do with vice president wide season. >> i never heard vice president biden come up until very late in the game. >> when? >> i don't recall the exact date. but when it all sort of came together, maybe after the transcript of the july 25th call. i don't know. i don't know the exact date when i made the connection. >> okay. >> apparently, a lot of people did not make the connection. >> okay. i want to turn to the letter from senator joh...

For all the supposed bombshells that were in your opening testimony. i want to get back to the facts of the matter here. and the thing that the democrats have been unwilling to accept is that their operatives got campaign dirt ukranians in the 2016 election. now, they know it. they know it's true. because we have financial records that show it. so they were, the democrats were heavily involved working with ukrainians to dirty up the trump campaign in 2016. so ambassador, i want to go through a few of the incidents that we know. i know you may not know all about them. you may know about them no...

You subsequently said, he was sort of like, i don't want to talk about want this. so it wasn't an order or a direction to talk to mr. guiliani. correct? >> our conclusion and the conclusion of the three of us was that if we did not talk to rudy, nothing would move forward on ukraine. >> okay. then that was may 23rd. and then you never had any personal communications with guiliani until august. right? >> that's correct. >> and volker was handling, ambassador volker was -- >> volker, perry and others. >> okay. >> ambassador volker, you testified he's a professional diplomat, correct? >> yes, he ...