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Kelly was that he was taken by surprise by reports of chaos at airports, because he had known himself through the drafting process of the executive order, so this is some fresh reporting that we are getting. so he had seen the draft of the eo coming past his desk, and so he knew that it was coming and had i guess been tasked his team. i want to go straight to jillian. under two different presidencies served in the capacity of looking at admissions like this, if you are national security, first of all your reaction to the news conference? >> gillian: just to pick up on a thread you touched on, ...

Cases the willingness to provide us the information necessary to ensure that the people that are coming into this country are properly vetted, this isn't about refugees. it's about travelers, and that's what this is about and so part of what we're doing is frankly making sure that other countries understand exactly what was in the order, how it applies, what it means to visas and waivers and all this kind of stuff, but for the most part, you've seen a lot of panic and people actually stopping, reading the order and realizing oh, that's it? and i think that's where we've tried to make sure that...

Through the inner agency review, had other departments sign off despite the reporting that said it was otherwise. >> but is this a betrayal? >> david, let me answer glenn so we can be polite now, huh? what the answer is that we went through the process. the office of legal compliance came back and said this say compliant executive order, it's fully legal and it can be executed. so then for the attorney general to turn around and say i'm not going to uphold this lawful executive order is clearly a dereliction of duty and she should have been removed and she was. it is odd to me that we're havin...

Department by expressing a counter opinion. don't you think that kind of language has a chilling effect on the public statements that your official is making? >> i think there's a big difference. think about the process at work here. the department of justice office of legal compliance vetted the executive order, sent it back to us saying it was completely compliant. then the acting attorney general goes out and says i'm not going to enforce it. you tell me how that jives, because at the end of the day, if the acting attorney general has an office under her jurisdiction that says that somethin...

President n collaboration and then sent down to the departments for execution in this case homeland security. now the e. o. to me and this was more or less a collaborative process it fairly clear. when that came down i think i was in my sixth day on the job but i relied on people like the ones that are standing up here and the hundreds back at the headquarters to say okay, we got it, boss, this looks good to us and we're off to the races and really, i mean i kept being asked about chaos at the ports of entry, and as i said to many, many members of congress in individual phone calls, our office...