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She got hit two different ways, biden then tulsi gabbard. here it is. >> you notice there's no talk about the fact that the plan in ten years will cost $3 trillion. you will lose your employer-based insurance. and, in fact, you know, this is the single most important issue facing the public. and to be very blunt and to be very straightforward, you can't beat president trump with double talk on this plan. >> kamala harris just talked about kathleen sebelius who helped write her bill. this just pointed to the fatal flaw in her proposal. sebelius works for a private insurance company who will sta...

Need because they cannot afford it. so the core of this problem is the fact that big insurance companies and big pharmaceutical companies who have been profiting off the backs of sick people have had to seat at the table writing this legislation. kamala harris just talked about kathleen sebelius who helped write her bill. this pointed to the fatal flaw in her proposal. sebelius writes for medicare advantage who will stand to profit under her plan. if we're seeking to really reform our health care system, we've got to shut out big insurance and big pharma out of the drafting process so they can...

Drafting process is. even if you're doing it as one person, it would be difficult but then you're doing it as a collective body and then doing it with the house and with the president involved. there are a lot of people in it. and it's hard to have, with all the compromises inherent in that, hard to have crystal clarity on every possible topic. as judges, number one, we have to recognize the process that you go through as legislators. that means adhere to the compromises that are made. the text as written. but also when we write our opinions, if there seems to be something thnot working out, i...

Staffing and how difficult the drafting process is and everyone everyone -- even you are doing it with one person is difficult and you are doing it with the white house and there is a lot of people in and it is hard to have all the compromises or a crystal clarity on every possible topic. number one, we have to recognize the process you go through as legislatures, that means adhere to the compromises that are made and tax as written but also as when we write our opinion, it is something that it is not working out. it is appropriate for judges to point it out in their opinion. >> and everyone i...

Will msnbc tomorrow say, you know what, we have been wrong? >> throughout this whole time frame, i've been saying privately, because nobody has seen me on tv before tonight that there will be some people that agree and some that disagree, but i want the report to stand on its own so that folks say conaway didn't have his thumb on the scale. schiff didn't have his thumb on the scale. put as much of the underlying documentation in there as we possibly can so that readers can decide for themselves whether we did a thorough investigation and what we based our conclusions on. let the american peopl...