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Do you think -- what are you expecting to happen? you've written about this a month ago but what do you expect now as we are all waiting for this mueller investigation? >> i think you're right that we have a little bit of a false binary here where we think we're going to get a whiz bang all or nothing. and i think there is a whole range of intermediate things that could come about. right? i think we're expecting there's going to be indictments and there's going to be a road map and there's going to be unicorns and a pony and we're all going to know, smoking gun, watergate tapes. it doesn't hav...

Tapes. it doesn't have to go down that way, and everything we know about robert mueller is that he tends to be less the kind of dramatic b act guy and just bare minimum law, you know, follow the law, this is a lifer who's always conducted himself this way. so i think there's such an enormous gray area in there. and i think that for folks who have been doing a lot of magical thinking about what this is going to offer them, the smoking gun at the other end, they may be disappointed. >> and let me just read from what you wrote in slate last month. for those who have been collecting the mueller me...