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Convince them. she will meet with this group of rebels and try to lay out her case as to why she should remain in power. why it is a risk to remove her and begin a leadership challenge here and of course those vote follows. we'll know the results at 4:00 p.m. eastern time. >> kelly, thank you very much for that. we'll stay on that story. >> it has been 25 years this year since justice joined this court. a kwater century since her confirmation hearings in 1993. >> drawing lines on the basis of gender is in almost all cases impermissible. i think generally in our society a change is incrimental ...

Opening to go down that road? >> today's news shows that the president and his associates were willing to lie or mislead the country about the nature of their financial interest in russia. i think that tells us one thing. it tells us we can't rely on what they're telling us. there have been credible allegations and statements by the president's sons about how much money they're getting from russia or don't need u.s. banks because they get money from russia and there are other indicia of money laundering that raise this serious concern which i think someone needs to look into. it would be my ho...

Of invaders that politicians using to jen up fear. shut up about drawing lines. this rhetoric exists. this man said this thing and now this thing happened. stop it. look in the mirror and calm down. >> at some point, there was a huge leap that was not based on logic. >> shepard: you turn up the crazies and the crazies come out. >> even though we all love social media. >> shepard: we don't. >> we are on the same page. the key is that people can find each other and inspire each other and validate that anomy, that normlessness where they feel emboldened to act on something that a few days ago rec...

>> drawing lines around roger stone. >> you go with the circles and start from the outside and then you work your way in and we know that roger stone has not been interviewed by the special counsel which may mean this that he's a target. seems to me. he has said publicly he expects at some point to be indicted i guess. maybe we ought to take him at his word. we know that the president and you know this, jim, continued to talk to roger stone even after he was no longer officially or even unofficially with the campaign. they remained friends. trump doesn't let anybody go. >> does that with a lot...

About the mueller crime family which is such a great insult to everything that is right in this country, it really is. and then you actually ironically at the same time he's trashing mueller and trashing the raid that he was subject to, but he didn't tell his viewers put actually could put sean hannity up top or donald trump and start drawing lines to michael cohen and sean hannity and this rnc guy and others. i mean, how does fox news not -- >> well that's the question this morning with fox. >> not address this when he was central to this story? >> it seems like he is, at least today for sure...