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First, the immediate needs of a lot of people. but also, potential conflicts with the traditional way of life. how have you been able to do what you've been able to do? >> tom: i was born in and brought up in a very strong pastoral background. we were really anti-anything about conservation. really anti, because one we had the perception that this is a government thing, this is about grabbing our land -- >> kamau: it probably doesn't help that a lot of that land is owned by white people, right? somebody else is owning our land. >> tom: initially. >> kamau: okay. >> tom: there's also a percepti...

Education at lewa. and wanjinku kinuthia is head of communication. >> anthony: you're responsible for a larger picture, involving a huge challenge. first, the immediate needs of a lot of people. but also, potential conflicts with the traditional way of life. how have you been able to do what you've been able to do? >> tom: i was born in and brought up in a very strong pastoral background. we were really anti-anything about conservation. really anti, because one we had the perception that this is a government thing, this is about grabbing our land -- >> kamau: it probably doesn't help that a lo...

What you've been able to do? >> tom: i was born in and brought up in a very strong pastoral background. we were really anti-anything about conservation. really anti, because one we had the perception that this is a government thing, this is about grabbing our land -- >> kamau: it probably doesn't help that a lot of that land is owned by white people, right? somebody else is owning our land. >> tom: initially. >> kamau: okay. >> tom: there's also a perception that conservations being driven by the white, and so it's not about the communities, it's not about us. it's about them. but you know, gr...

Long time no see. thanks for dressing up, you have your own clothing line coming up, black on black? >> steve bannon: i knew if i was going to come on the show, you would bust my chops, i deserve it. >> laura: military jacket, at war, in the military coat. why the film? why now? we've been at war from the beginning. >> steve bannon: trump has. i've talked about this for years, been on your radio show, you were on my show. trump has been at war with the permanent political class. eight months ago i start the film, feeling like it would be like the tea party movement, get people in power. for th...

>> juan: one that outraged me. you love kanye west. okay, if you're going to take -- >> jesse: enimen took that along time ago. >> dana: wait until kanye sings a country song. >> greg: the first rapper was really david bowie. >> juan: he married a black woman. see what i am talking about? i was interested in this because of the idea that as kimberly was saying a moment ago, you look back at the hollowing thing and you get a lot of the fraternities and sororities they get in trouble and they said they are dressing up, let's say, like black people or they put on a sombrero, actually may 5 is com...