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On what the issue was, and they told me we have a spy inside the building and we want you to help us catch him. initially it was like getting kicked in the stomach. another major espionage case inside of cia. it was a devastating piece of information. >> we had to have someone as close up as possible to nicholson, and john hopefully was going to be that candidate but you couldn't thrust john on jim or jim would be suspicious. you had to do it in a way that jim would think it's his choice, his selection that brought john in the game. >> the first step was go through the interview process and ge...

So in the spring of 1996 i started as nicholson's deputy in the counterterrorism center. at that time radical islamic terrorism was on the rise. so there was a lot of real work stuff going on that you had to focus on. >> they were looking at critical players who eventually became known post 9/11. so it was very critical stuff they were doing. >> in the middle of all that you're trying to catch your boss compiling information he's going to give to the russians. >> to have someone in human source in touch with him every day. it's invaluable. >> getting to know him was part of the exercise. i spe...

Able to search that. so while customs agents were interviewing nathan about the purpose of his trip, fbi agents were copying all the paperwork that nathan had brought back with him. and during that search we found a number of very incriminating items that really broke the case wide open. >> they found some money that he brought back. i think it was over $7,000 or $8,000 on him. >> and they found a notebook that had a lot of very interesting information in it. the notebook was pretty much the jackpot. it confirmed he had addresses of the russian embassy in mexico city and he had the address for...

Interviewing nathan about the purpose of his trip, fbi agents were copying all the paperwork that nathan had brought back with him. and during that search we found a number of very inhad criminating items that really broke the case wide open. >> they found some money that he brought back. i think it was over 7 or $8 thousand on him. >> and they found a notebook that had a lot of very interesting information in it. the notebook was pretty much the jackpot. it confirmed he had addresses of the russian embassy in mexico city and in lima, peru. >> the russians were always interested in finding out...

>> one thing that was i think most interesting is the number of people on twitter talking about what we see now as the normalization of sean spicer. it seems entertaining at this moment but we have to remember when he was behind that podium he told a record number of lies that misled the american people on very important things. i don't know that everybody's ready to laugh yet. >> yeah. it was a very much an ongoing debate about that. the and behind the scenes was interesting because you saw photos on twitter, all the celebrities running up and taking selfies and drinking beer with him. i thin...