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Had to endure so many false smears on her character and has continued to show the courage to come forward and speak to our committees. and we are also learning a great deal on the issue of conditionality, that is the effort to condition a white house meeting that was desperately sought by the ukraine president in order to get a commitment from that president to do these political investigations on behalf of the president of the united states. so we're learning a lot about the conditionality of that meeting. and i want to underscore just how important that meeting was for ukraine. it is i think...

Drip diplomatically, militarily to show the president still has a good relationship. so that gave leverage for trump to coerce leverage to the president of ukraine. at the very time the state department is trying to urge ukraine to follow the rule of law, you have the president of the united states urging that president to engage in political investigations. you could not have a message more contradictory to that of the state department than that what we saw in that call. >> okay, that is the scene there on capitol hill. we've been listening in. we'll continue to keep on eye. that's adam schif...