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President obama, leon panetta and former chief of staff for president bill clinton. thank you, appreciate your time. what is your reaction to the latest development? >> well, it's part of this drip, drip process of finding out exactly what kind of inner relationship there was between various individuals in the trump campaign with russia. you know, it's been something that obviously bob mueller focused on. the committees in congress focused on it. what's of concern is that we are going through this process of finally finding out what's been involved here rather than having people, like the atto...

Get things out because if they try to rush things out then you have the sbel agencies i'm agreeing with mike there's going to be the drip, drip, drip process and along with that you find out some of these got into google and other very public servers. >> of all the e-mails that's come out, what have we actually learned that somehow changes what hillary clinton did or didn't do? what did we actually learn? >> it's not republicans.

For that final slot. i think almost any way you slice it. who knows, could get late surprises. we may have one or two national polls come out. the process is fairly opaque as to which exactly they're using and how they're going to weight the form l.a. they're so close at the bottom of the pack. kasich and perry, especially perry, he is trying to take a mulligan on his race in 2012 and it's the debate stage that screwed him up. >> yeah. it really is. i don't know if he needs it or should stay away from it. >> i don't know. how important it is michael, that they get on the top tier? is this a no...

>> i would. >> would you? >> i would. i don't think there is any doubt that the united states should use any intervention available including military intervention to keep iran from developing a nuclear weapon. >> are you concerned? a lot of people are concerned about the 24-day waiting period for inspections. it zptdoesn't make a lot of sense to people from the outside. what have you learned in this process that gives you more comfort that that's not a deal breaker? >> well both from secretary muniz and graham alice and i asked this question they're convinced there is no practical way that ir...

Option that's are currently available to us to intervene in iran militarily as you said earlier in the show if in fact iran either cheats or at the end of the agreement decides to violate the terms of the nonproliferation treaty and move toward the weaponization of nuclear weapons. >> do you feel we have the option to attack them militarily if they end up breaking the agreement with us? >> i think we have stronger standing to use that tool because we would have given diplomacy a chance and in order to have international support for military intervention which i think would be critical i think ...