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Then we've also had to process the fact that the relationship between police and community is not what we want it to be and so often young black men, you know, experience police not as a positive force to protect, but as somebody who is going see you as a suspect or somebody to be feared. how is that playing out for you in school and also now that you're working. >> police in chicago for a while i was driving lyft when i was in college. i'd come home weekends, drive lyft and i was getting pulled over like crazy, almost every night i was getting pulled over, but the first question they asked an...

Process the fact that the relationship between the police and the community is not what we want it to be. and so often, young black men, you know, experience police not as a positive force to protect but as somebody who is going to see you as a suspect or somebody to be feared. how has that played out for you guys, both while you're still in school but also now that you're working? >> police in chicago, for a while i was driving a lyft while i was still in college, i would come home weekends, drive lyft. and i was getting pulled over like crazy, almost every night i was getting pulled over. bu...

While i was driving a lyft while i was still in college, i would come home weekends, drive lyft. and i was getting pulled over like crazy, almost every night i was getting pulled over. but the first question they asked -- i asked, how are you doing, officer, how is it going? their first question is, any drugs or weapons in the car? granted, i'm a big black guy. the first thing they see, suspicious. but as i was telling the guys, i've got to make it home to my family. i can't be another case where some officer has his knee on my neck, choking me out. so my biggest thing is making it back home, ...

As a positive force to protect but, as somebody who is gonna see you as -- as a suspect or -- or some -- somebody to be feared. i -- how's that played out, for you guys? both, while you are still in school but also now that you're working. >> police in chicago, for a while, i was driving lyft. while i was still in college. i'd come home weekends, drive lyft. >> uh-huh. >> and i was getting pulled over, like crazy. almost every night, i was getting pulled over. but the first question they asked and i asked how you doing, officer? how's it going? they first question, any drugs or weapons in the ...