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The devastating flooding from the 20 plus inches of rain, may be up to 30 inches as it comes a lunch for >> shannon: jay, having written about this and having an historical context for these kinds of storms, a north carolinian yourself, what message do you have for the people of the carolinas as they try to survive this and start over? >> you are hearing it consistently from the reports tonight, just because the storm has dropped in intensity on the simpson scale, we can't ignore the fact that this was a monster dressed a couple of days ago. it still is in scale, and those reading impacts are ...

>> all right. as michelle was saying, the storm is a little wobbly, it is hard to know exactly where it is going. there's some likelihood as we've been looking at new bern and places on the eastern side of north carolina that these winds and rain, regardless of how strong they are or weak they are, are going to hang around here for a while. this could be a problem for longer than we were expecting. >> correct. this may become a flood emergency, not a hurricane emergency. we're concerned about that. we've seen the large numbers that are projected in terms of rainfall. it will be interesting to ...

Just as we have been talking about and it's going to inundate these communities. it's going to sit here for 24 to 36 hours with that track making landfall possibly not until tomorrow afternoon. could be later if this sits offshore longer and it's going to shred that coastline all across the north carolina coast, south carolina coast and then bring lots of rain. i was reading one report that was showing an area between wilmington and myrtle beach could receive 40 min inches of within 48 hours. that's not even the storm surge. that's the rain alone. we're seeing the outer bands come on shore. yo...

Way down, jake. >> what's the best case and what's the worst-case scenario for those who are bracing for this hurricane? >> well, i think the only best-case scenario would be for it to go somewhere else than where you lived, right? but with this storm, it is basically all worst-case scenario, because the storm is going to basically come to a screeching halt. and it is going to dump a lot of rain across interior sections. the storm surge is going to be a huge concern. 6 to 12-foot storm surge in this area shaded in red. that water is going to go up all the river systems. it's going to overfill ...

True? >> you're starting out with something that's a small percentage of the whole land area of ohio and it goes into the river systems. even if some of it goes, it dilu dilutes. could some things go wrong? there's always that possibility. would it dev state the fishery? i don't see a way you can do that. >> it's not hard to find people who disagree. >> i was a typical red neck kid who came up here and thought everything was so incredible and there was very little government. almost unlimited resources and i couldn't imagine why we needed all the regulation of the federal system. >> this is ri...