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Do? segregate communities and say only african-american police officers can actually police african-americans? but my point is this, when you see the president do what he did yesterday, it's not helping race relations, it's hurting it and dividing us by actually taking a part of what al sharpton, jesse jackson make a living off of. >> this is exactly why -- >> -- ending racial profiling, though. mark, is it up to the president to do this? >> i think it's appropriate for the president to step in and do something about racial profiling. obviously, this needs to be resolved on a state level. ther...

Is deeply invested in making sure that this time is different. >> do you believe him, patricia? >> i most certainly do. people that live here in the st. louis region are going to make sure that whether it is through a commission or other actions, there are solutions. and there are actions that are taking place to address these issues. so i definitely commend the men and women on the commission. their work will not be in vain. it is the people in the community who will have to do the real work. >> president obama and his attorney general speaking in atlanta have spoken about race. and their com...

The reality is that michael brown did not have a gun. he put his hands up. michael brown was trying to avoid confrontation. i think that we need to understand why we have these data -- it's clear that black boys are being killed by white police officers around the country from north to south, from east to west. it doesn't end. i think we have to make sure that we're responding to that, making the people like michael brown understand it and deal with it. but make sure we don't have these things happen again. >> we heard dwb, that black men experience this, driving while black. yes, i drive in a...

It makes a lot of difference. the reality is that michael brown did not have a gun. he put his hands up. michael brown was trying to avoid confrontation. i think that we need to understand why we have these data -- it's clear that black boys are being killed by white police officers around the country from north to south, from east to west. it doesn't end. i think we have to make sure that we're responding to that, making the people like michael brown understand it and deal with it. but make sure we don't have these things happen again. >> we heard dwb, that black men experience this, driving ...

The fundamental issue is not even necessarily michael brown. it is that this keeps happening to black men. it's that whole issue of driving while black. as long as black people continue to feel you cannot walk down the street without coming under suspicion, this anger is going to continue. >> that was "new york times" reporter helene cooper on "meet the press yesterday." moments later that divide was on full display. >> if you look at the most credible evidence, the lessons are really basic. don't rob a convenience store, don't fight a policeman when he stops you and try to take his gun and wh...