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Everyone is broken by life but some people are stronger in the broken places. so nations and cities get broken by life but they're going to be stronger. >> we are part of the problem. when we are so hyper, wired, kids are walking by tvs. for four solid days had the reel of the explosion after the reel of the explosion, the yelling, the screaming. we are encouraging mass hysteria and then having thoughtful panelses on mass hysteria. do you know what i mean? we've to change a little of the way we do it. >> i don't think we're encouraging mass hysteria. there's being prudent and terrorized and th...

We've to change a little of the way we do it. >> i don't think we're encouraging mass hysteria. there's being prudent and terrorized and there's a big gap between those two. we can do this in a way that's not hysterical but cognizant of what the reality is. the other point, a more hopeful point, it's that after 9/11 we had no experience with this. so sometimes some of our reactions were correct reactions. some were overreactions. and this gives us an opportunity on the drone issue, for instance, on public security issues, on airport and cctv to think about this in a more -- to really be more t...

Interesting confluence where you had people on the left and the right calling into question the legality of the drone issue. that's not the case with this debate. this is very much a very stark partisan debate being had on gun issues and whether or not everything from background checks to assault weapons to high caliber machines to gun trafficking to all these other laws that are being -- amendments being proposed. that's going to be the difference between how a filibuster will be perceived on that issue versus on this one. >> finally, mike, i've got to ask you about something, a playbook excl...

Lee of utah. they saw that the stand with rand filibuster covered the drone issue was so effective it not only gummed up the senate but also got huge street cred for rand paul among conservatives that they are going to try it again. and what they're trying to disarm here, what they're trying to defuse here is an effort to add amendments to this to tighten up the restrictions. so as you said in your set-up, the bill they're going to take up when they come back two weeks from now is going to be mostly about universal background checks and trafficking prevention. but they figured there are some a...

In the last campaign, frankly not talking about open-ended commitments. does the gop need to recognize and respond to a war weariness in the country? >> i think the drone issue and war we areness are two totally different issues. rand paul's war and drones is a war on a pretty successful fight against terrorism right now. i'm not sure where that gets us. i agree with bill that the gop doesn't lose by being a strong party of national security. what we -- what the republicans lost were moderates new election. thin in the 56% of moderates self-described moderates went to barack obama not to the p...