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Hunt them down again and conduct another strike. there's good reason, they say, to believe that they did get jihadi john. you have to look at xho conducted the mission. this was the joint special operations command. this is the group down in ft. bragg that's been conducting all these drone ops and tracks this type of intelligence bit by bit. they took the shot because they really believed that that was him. >> barbara starr at the pentagon with the latest. thanks much. want to talk about this more. cnn counterterrorism intelligence phil mudd joins us. you have worked inside the cia. you have h...

That you're dealing with. and we've got this pen chant for doing remote ops and drone ops based in other countries and we have this idea of having this remote operations which the air force is very famous for and i was involved in. the problem is if you don't get your boots on ground and you don't actually go face-to-face with the peep there, you have very little chance of influencing the political outcomes. >> the other thing folks don't talk about beyond uniform military, cia has a massive operational force there. which does a lot of the missions against groups like al qaeda and isis on the ...