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In place, and we need congressional help to do that to make sure that not only am i reined in, but any president is reined in terms of some of the decisions we're making. >> that was president obama back in october, addressing concerns over the nation's drone strike program, part of the larger war on terrorism. despite the kind of campaign rhetoric, the obama administration has taken few steps to rein in the program intended to target terrorists. the president has insisted that drones have been used only to prevent an operational plot against the united states. yet as the guardian reports, ame...

Program, part of the larger war on terrorism. despite the kind of campaign rhetoric, the obama administration has taken few steps to rein in the program intended to target terrorists. the president has insisted that drones have been used only to prevent an operational plot against the united states. yet as the guardian reports, america's use of drones has soared during obama's time in office, with the white house authorizing attacks in at least four countries -- afghanistan, pakistan, yemen and somalia. it's estimated that the cia and the united states military have undertaken more than three ...

Iraq war, known as somebody who was against torture, enhanced techniques, specifically against water boarding. he said recently he is against the shifting of military power to the cia, treating cia effectively as an air force. he says a lot of the drone strikes should be carried out by the military, under traditional military authority so we're not doing this exotic extra legal stuff. those policies that he says he favors haven't been enacted by him. and he doesn't seem to argue for them publicly in a way that makes them happen. how should we interpret that as he is being considered for this b...

He's replaced by his driver and the next drone goes in after him, is that a legitimate target? >> well, i think the other question that jane harman brought up earlier, should any of this stuff be done under the cia or done at the pong where, frankly, more accountable perhaps in place? >> well, chuck, the drone war is the least covert covert operation the u.s. has ever run. every drone strike done by the cia or just about everyone is reported in the newspapers or some journal -- >> can't hide them. they're not small things. >> the most covert one, of course, is cyber. he's been deeply involved ...

Places where the information is held very, very tightly. >> you know, guys, i think kurt's book speaks to the outrage that's been well documented over the iraq war and what happened after 9/11 from a foreign policy standpoint. i have to wonder if you'll find that same outrage in a few years, maybe after obama has been out of office or if he gets a second term, after that, over this administration's seemingly unchecked hostility to civil liberties, whether it's in the drone attacks, the aassassinations of american citizens without due process, the espinage act. glenn green wald called it americ...