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We proved them wrong with the help of the catholic nuns. >> absolutely incredible. pepe, your first jobs in chicago, those were in gay bars. i wonder how those experiences and that immersion in the community then came to influence your activism and your thinking about what it would require to move things forward. >> gabe where the center of any activists. we didn't have churches, we didn't have places to meet. so the bars were the natural place. i found myself in the middle of a lot of things, just because i was working in a bar. a gay bar. i saw the race, i saw the harassment, i saw the way w...

In our production meetings, have been struggling with the duality of this moment, that on one hand, this is pride month, and pride is meant to be a celebration, and a recognition of the progress that has been made. and on the same, no it is a political program. we are following what is happening in states, we watch these teenagers have to go to school board meetings to advocate for themselves and their families, and for basic rights. and i think there is often this tug, this feeling, that we are moving in the wrong direction. so for someone, art, who has been living this, but also doing the wo...

Would require to move things forward. >> gabe where the center of any activists. we didn't have churches, we didn't have places to meet. so the bars were the natural place. i found myself in the middle of a lot of things, just because i was working in a bar. a gay bar. i saw the race, i saw the harassment, i saw the way we were treated. that sort of made a big difference in how i look at things, and what things needed to be changed for the better. >> art, i will admit to you that we in our production meetings have been struggling with the duality of this moment. that on one hand, this is pride...

Into success for the community at large, and also myself personally. this was like an interesting duality to kind of navigate. >> so, patricia, explain a little bit more, if you would, about this story, and why it has been so well received? it's resonating with so many people, why do you think that is? >> you know, the fastest i've ever said yes to a script in my career, she was attached first. and i think because it's about at the end of the day, it's about family, it's about forgiveness, it's about love, it's about hope. you just -- it resonates with everyone that sees this. and it's not los...

Little bit of a preview of that. he will deal with it a bit with some humor and disengage it. we remember the reagan mondale debate where ronald reagan used that pretty effectively in humor. i think the president will also go to the american people and talk about what he has done. talk about the manufacturing jobs that are coming back. talk about bringing down health care costs. making insulin more affordable. all of the things this administration has done to paint the picture of a vigorous, engaged president. that's why, frankly, impacting peoples lives by getting stuff done. i think that dua...