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complete holy hell, remember? >> this is going to be the misdemeanor from hell for merrick garland, joe biden, and nancy pelosi. they took on the wrong guy this time. >> well, that's what makes the one-time trump white house advisers move now, well, extra confounding because eight months ago, bannon said that he wasn't backing down ever. i mean, the wrong guy this time, right? well, trial dates have a funny way of making people change their minds, shall we say, because now he is, well, backing down. willing to testify before that very committee that he seemed to be mocking and taunti...

How to sort of win this back or win it. >> you can't have it both ways iflt strikes me, people are saying, listen, there's not both sides represented. there's not other people able to testify. and they say, this is not a criminal proceeding. you can't treat it as such. if it were a courtroom, i would agree, they have the defense on their case. they have the due process element of it. this is not that. can they have it both ways in the sense of saying, this is not supposed to be a same proceeding and have the requirements of due process. even, of course, they had their chance. mccarthy said, pu...

Attorney. whether or not it can float i don't know that's another due process element from the witch trials. >> i think you're supposed to sink. that was the weird catch-22 -- there was a catch-22 of those witch trials. you better sink or you float, you're guilty. it does seem like he's not throwing himself at the mercy of the court because there's no mercy out there for him. and i wonder if he's simply making noise for his 40%? >> i think that's what it is. it's part rant, it's part mobilizing his base. it's part whining. nothing like this has ever happened before in the history of the world....

From them by police or the court system. these are some of the states where red flag laws have already been passed. one of the issues, it's my understanding that in california, after they pass their law, they went almost two years without anybody even trying to, you know, apply it, trying to get a gun taken away. so it's not just passing the laws. you have to make people aware that i guess the law is available. >> that's the criticism we heard the other day from a republican of wyoming. he's a member of senate republican leadership. he's a bellwether when it comes to support among republicans ...

From them by police or the court system. these are some of the states where red flag laws have already been passed. one of the issues, it's my understanding that in california, after they pass their law, they went almost two years without anybody even trying to, you know, apply it, trying to get a gun taken away. so it's not just passing the laws. you have to make people aware that i guess the law is available. >> that's the criticism we heard the other day from a republican of wyoming. he's a member of senate republican leadership. he's a bellwether when it comes to support among republicans ...