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>> good morning. i want to start by mentioning that you ruled out a presidential run yourself back in march. you said you didn't want to be part of, quote, a multi-car pileup. a few days out from iowa. who should drop out? >> well, you know, i think that's for those candidates to decide. i think it depends what happens in iowa, frankly. so i thought last night the town hall both the candidates did better than i had seen them perform before. cnn did a good job putting on the town hall. it was a good format. i thought that ron desantis for the first time i had seen the whole campaign was connect...

Programs for bank of america, and i traveled. so i had to go to haiti and india and japan and singapore and brazil and all of these places required getting on a flight. i had to get over that fear. and in the early days, i couldn't touch the mouse making the reservation. i would sweat and it was really, really difficult. but now, you know, i have learned to do it. now i can get on there. i had to create a new normal that planes don't fuel out of the sky and they take off and land. so that's my new normal. >> that's a good new normal at that. unbelievable story at the time both for you personal...

Contra costa college is free for full-time students, which makes you free to explore all the incredible opportunities unleashed by higher learning. start your future and apply today at contracosta.edu/free we are ten days away from the iowa caucus. we have a clock and ten months from the general election. cnn is take ang early look at this moment at a potential biden versus trump rematch in the electoral math each needs to capture the 270 electoral votes

Is it republican, democrat, independent, they do believe that this was an assault on our democracy, one of the worst days in american history, and i think reminding people of what that was like. but you are not going to swing the trump voters. they just are not -- i don't know how it happens, but they just believe it was a friendly tourists at the capitol and nothing bad happened and trump didn't incite the riot. but i think when get to the general election, it has the complete opposite effect in a primary. it pumps them up. >> larry hogan, thank you for speaking with us. >> thank you. and n...