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Right on parts of it. as you note these weren't always released right on time. not everything was released. to call them foe releases is i think a spin here, but the reason that the president trump is not releasing the white house visit logs is they don't want to and because he thinks there's no political price to pay and frankly you can debate again whether it's the right thing to do, but politically speaking he's probably right. i don't see donald trump running against a candidate in 2020 who says we need to defeat donald trump because he didn't publicly disclose the white house travel. it's...

Trump is on an island on this one. >> he's not on an island. if he is, he's on an island with 36 presidents who didn't release their tax returns. that means every president from wilson to johnson -- >> why are you going back to wilson? that has no relevance to today. you can't go back to the prehistoric example to talk about what donald trump is doing. you haven't explained why he's lying. >> 43 years ago is when this changed. >> keith, let me ask you something -- >> just answer the question. just answer the question. just answer. just answer the question. >> did you release your tax returns w...

Ph ph philmoore excuse. presidents who run campaigns on the issue of transparency should be even more incumbent upon them to release their tax returns. donald trump lied when he said he will release his tax returns. he never did it. hillary clinton released 39 years of tax returns. >> i want to ask a broader issue because you mentioned the logs. sean spicer was asked today about the logs, those white house logs and why donald trump administration is not going to be releasing them when barack obama did. here is how sean spicer answered the question. >> it's the same policy that every administra...

Keith, under audit, no returns. the president is being consistent, isn't he? >> no, because actually if you think about it before he used the audit excuse he did say he would release his tax returns. he said at first with regard to president obama. if president obama releases his birth certificate, i'll release my tax returns. he didn't do it. then in an interview with an irish television in 2014 he said if i run for president i will absolutely release my tax returns. he didn't do it. it's a question of honesty and integri integrity. this is a president who lied about his willingness to releas...

One day before the deadline to file. >> the same audit that existed so nothing has changed. >> is it time to say the president is never going to release his tax returns? >> we'll have to get back to you on that. >> he may? >> i said i'll have to get back to you on that. he is still under audit. >> the audit excuse has been given over and over and over since the campaign. nothing stops trumps from releasing his returns and it gets more interesting than that. there's a big question here, he was under audit in the past. will he be under audit for the 2016 taxes? >> his 2016 tax returns are automa...