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Under their own constitutional system and we under ours are trying to fill in that space, fill in that gap. >> you say the french are even more aggressive thaten the united states, huh? >> oh, yeah no they really are. yet they remain a democracy. and i'm not implying anything by that. they draw this line about public safety more aggressively than we do. >> let's talk about the attack in texas. are you worried about isis claiming responsibility? >> not particularly other than it's kind of what we expected. i know you had tom on earlier talking about this. this wasn't directed by isis. if anythi...

Away eventually. there will always be people that look around for things to yell about. i don't care. that's the attitude that the clinton sxan hoping will prevail not just among democrats but among general election voters. >> all right. we do have questions we have to ask along the way and parsce through the journalism. the white house is calling the shooting outs a controversial mohammed cartoon contest a suspected terrorist act. isis is claiming control. they say there is no reason to connect them to the islamic state. lindsay zbram doubting the attack. was the first attack in the u.s. woul...

Co-director and senior fellow of the transnational threats project at the center for strategic and international studies, thomas anderson. good tough back on the show sir. >> good morning. thank you. >> so the white house is calling the shooting a terrorist act. there is no evidence that proves they were actually connected with isis. there is this isis claiming of responsible. what do you make of it or what do you think the concern is here? >> well what i make of it is that isis is trying to take credit for something that they asked for muslims world wide to do back in september following by s...

In this country and other countries? >> oh, no doubt about i. 90,000 messages a day or vsd or some form of communication come from isis. so they are far outstripping al qaeda at this point. it does not mean groups like aqap in yemen or other groups al shabab are foughtnot very dangerous. let's not forget aqap has specifically targeted the united states. to answer your question isis is without a doubt at the vanguard of the jihadi movement. >> thomas sanderson, thank you very much. >> you are welcome. >> still ahead on "morning joe" mayor bill deblasio joins us here on set about an exclusive in...

Isis on twitter. contradiction of the contest organizer. meanwhile the weren't of the controversial contest is in hiding saying he is receiving numerous death threats and white house press secretary josh earnest had this exchange where he refused to say whether the events should have been held. >> the principals we have cited here is there is no active expression. even if it's an offensive expression can justify an act of terrorism or even an act of violence and that's why i'm reluctant to offer render my own judgment or the judgment of the united states government about this particular active...