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Courts as opposed to military courts. that's not happening. now we are doing these unprecedented terrorists for swaps, and now we are talking about transfers. where are they going to go? how are they going to go? what is the policy? it is all based on a complete misunderstanding of the laws of armed con flect. we see this false dye cot me that is saying well it is either release him now and we get our guy back alive, or we release him late expert guy is dead. there is an on going war on terror even though the administration doesn't realize it. just because they withdraw doesn't mean the war is...

Focus is on the shutdown and not the terrible i'm implementation of the bill. >> the conservatives are arguing in an op-ad that they have elevated the focus on terrible it looks. 60% would vote to defeat every mep of -- member of congress. but that is misleading. that's not how voting happens. they are voted on in their district and those numbers can and usually are dramatically different. >> absolutely. there is a strange dye cot me. when you ask the american public at a whole do they like congress? congress are all bums. throw them out. do you like joe smith, your congressman? he is the best...

Two of the oklahoma shooting suspects are black. police say the third is white. the other case we have been talking about involves world war ii veteran del beret -- delbert. he was beat to death in a parking lot. in both cases the victim was white. joining us was radio host allen and chris. allen, race is becoming a hot topic in this country. that's no secret. this year alone lots of focus because of the trayvon martin case. is it fair to have the same conversation in the context of these two most recent cases? >> i don't think they are equivalent at all. for one thing, the authorities in the ...

>> i i wanted to make sure they got it for the clip. i think the one thing i tried to convey about him, and i think everybody here has said and anne has said, he knew politics was part of life. politics was not life. if you disagreed with him, he did not hate you. that's the way normal rational human beings are supposed to approach this. and it is such a dye cot me with the way he has been treated in his passing by others. i find that to me to be frustrating, but in the end, you take from his example one of the best things is if you disagree with somebody it doesn't mean they are a bad cat. >>...

I think the one thing i tried to convey about him, and i think everybody here has said and anne has said, he knew politics was part of life. politics was not life. if you disagreed with him, he did not hate you. that's the way normal rational human beings are supposed to approach this. and it is such a dye cot me with the way he has been treated in his passing by others. i find that to me to be frustrating, but in the end, you take from his example one of the best things is if you disagree with somebody it doesn't mean they are a bad cat. >> anne, one of the things we talked about what he does...