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Common in that you could all be viewed as outsiders, not sort of in the political clasp, although bernie sanders has been in washington for a long time. do you think there is something to that? do you sense that is part of the draw for you? >> well, there is no question that's part of it and, you know, if it weren't for that, i wouldn't be here. i wouldn't be doing this at all. but that was one of the reasons that there were so many people clambering for me to do this and that's why the draft movement started had it not been more that, i certainly would not be doing this. >> after the 2012 ele...

And a faction candidate, what's your thought on that? >> i think he's a combination of so many factors, anderson. the most definitely part of it is that he is tapping into dysfunctioning washington. he has tapped into some of the concerns regarding immigration and he's, you know, really blown that up. participant of it is he is a celebrity and part of it is he's got less money. he can parachute, you know, not parachute, helicopter into campaign events and helicopter out and do all sorts of things other candidates at this time cannot do. >> gloria, recently nate on his block compared the two pl...

>> wow, the "red wedding" episode. definitely tuning in. the fact donald trump could be a combination of both the flavor of the month or surge candidate and a faction candidate, what's your thought on that? >> i think he's a combination of so many factors, anderson. the most definitely part of it is that he is tapping into voter frustration with a dysfunctioning washington. he has tapped into some of the concerns regarding immigration and he's, you know, really blown that up. participant of it is he is a celebrity and part of it is he's got less money. he can parachute, you know, not parachute...