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Fbi thought he lied. they put the screws to flynn and he had to compose a lie and he did it to get out of the mess that they were putting him in. you feel any safer than michael cohen is going to go to prison for a significant amount of time? for lying to congress? lying on a bank loan application. taxi medallion loans. not paying taxes. he feels safer knowing that manafort might spend the rest of his life behind bars because of tax fraud and lies on loan applications? had nothing to do with russia. years before he met trump. he feels safer that everyone surrounding the president is seemingly ...

That you have uncovered email chains from the people at the fbi and doj who are at the top levels. >> right. >> sean: what we now know is that they knew that this was not verified, this dossier. they knew that -- they knew where it came from, that hillary had paid for it they never took the time to verify it themselves. >> and rather than do their due diligence, they went along and just decided that they wanted to get the fisa warrant and they committed what is ultimately a conscious fraud on the court is that a fair question? >> that's the question and allegation that has to be further invest...

That you have uncovered email chains from the people at the fbi and doj who are at the top levels. >> right. >> sean: what we now know is that they knew that this was not verified, this dossier. they knew that -- they knew where it came from, that hillary had paid for it. they never took the time to verify it themselves. and rather than do their due diligence, they went along and just decided that they wanted to get the fisa warrant and they committed what is ultimately a conscious fraud on the court is that a fair question? >> that's the question and allegation that has to be further investig...

E-mail says spying in the top. there is more. i want to go through really quickly. >> sure. >> he is -- he has been on e-mail chains and it's been shown he's been e-mail chains where racest jokes were taken about. he was silent on that. again, he refuses to answer questions about trump's -- whether or not trump can be indicted. these are offenses, okay? and again, from a confirmation perspective, his stance on abortion is enough to not confirm him. but from a judicial institution perspective, how can we have a person on the d.c. circuit who cannot tell the truth in front of congress. the next ...

Hundred, thousands in days. >> you hit exactly on the issue. the numbers get huge very quickly. because you have e-mail chains, e-mail chains that slit off with different conversations. sometimes you get an e-mail and foe whole chain to one other person. and two of you an an e-mail that originally had a conversation on the side. each of the eails is generally a separate document. and so that's how these numbers, 4 million is not surprising to me if you were going to raid a law office that you would get that many, particularly electronic files. every text, phone call, all all that stuff is goin...